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		<title>By: Frankman</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-50334</link>
		<dc:creator>Frankman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They killed her son. She&#039;s against the war. 
What&#039;s so complicated to understand?

You say she&#039;s embracing lies. 
What do you call the whole WMD charade?

People are dying by the truckloads and you guys are furious  because this woman wants it to stop?

And if you think this war isn&#039;t about oil.... well, that is an opinion. The oil is being pumped and it&#039;s being used to pay for the &quot;reconstruction&quot; via no-bid contracts to american  companies. That is a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They killed her son. She&#8217;s against the war.<br />
What&#8217;s so complicated to understand?</p>
<p>You say she&#8217;s embracing lies.<br />
What do you call the whole WMD charade?</p>
<p>People are dying by the truckloads and you guys are furious  because this woman wants it to stop?</p>
<p>And if you think this war isn&#8217;t about oil&#8230;. well, that is an opinion. The oil is being pumped and it&#8217;s being used to pay for the &#8220;reconstruction&#8221; via no-bid contracts to american  companies. That is a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. BTW, that above list of &quot;left wing nut cases&quot; (commonly referred to as &quot;Moonbats&quot; -- anyone on the pejorative right is a &quot;Wingnut&quot; heh.) should not, by any means, be considered even to scratch the surface. 

Not only are there many other outright lies, there are a number of lies-of-omission, instances where they do everything possible to obscure the truth about something, even (or particularly) when they know it to be false:

For example, it&#039;s really interesting, considering the level of corruption involved (10s of BILLIONS!), and the people who were victimized (poor Iraqis), how the whole UN Oil-for-Food scam gets barely a mention once in a while, while Abu Ghirab, the &quot;Gitmo Gulag&quot; and Plamegate, each truly non-stories, can&#039;t disappear from the front pages.

See how widespread &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; story becomes:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1734483,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Annanâ€™s brother in oil scandal inquiry&lt;/a&gt;

Then there&#039;s the Air America &lt;a href=&quot;http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;financing scandal&lt;/a&gt;, wherein $875,000 in taxpayer-funded community center grants &lt;b&gt;for children&lt;/b&gt; instead went to the liberal radio network. 

Nary a peep on &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; one, either.

Hey, look!! Valerie Plame!! 
&lt;i&gt;pay no attention to those frauds behind the curtain!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. BTW, that above list of &#8220;left wing nut cases&#8221; (commonly referred to as &#8220;Moonbats&#8221; &#8212; anyone on the pejorative right is a &#8220;Wingnut&#8221; heh.) should not, by any means, be considered even to scratch the surface. </p>
<p>Not only are there many other outright lies, there are a number of lies-of-omission, instances where they do everything possible to obscure the truth about something, even (or particularly) when they know it to be false:</p>
<p>For example, it&#8217;s really interesting, considering the level of corruption involved (10s of BILLIONS!), and the people who were victimized (poor Iraqis), how the whole UN Oil-for-Food scam gets barely a mention once in a while, while Abu Ghirab, the &#8220;Gitmo Gulag&#8221; and Plamegate, each truly non-stories, can&#8217;t disappear from the front pages.</p>
<p>See how widespread <i>this</i> story becomes:<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1734483,00.html" rel="nofollow">Annanâ€™s brother in oil scandal inquiry</a></p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the Air America <a href="http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">financing scandal</a>, wherein $875,000 in taxpayer-funded community center grants <b>for children</b> instead went to the liberal radio network. </p>
<p>Nary a peep on <b>that</b> one, either.</p>
<p>Hey, look!! Valerie Plame!!<br />
<i>pay no attention to those frauds behind the curtain!</i></p>
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		<title>By: Nick B</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-941</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Andy Warhol said â€œIn the future everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutesâ€?

&lt;b&gt;Johnson&#039;s Corollary to Godwin&#039;s Law, as applied to Warhol&#039;s
Proposition:&lt;/b&gt;

â€œIn the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutesâ€

 - Charles Johnson, LGF -

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Andy Warhol said â€œIn the future everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutesâ€?</p>
<p><b>Johnson&#8217;s Corollary to Godwin&#8217;s Law, as applied to Warhol&#8217;s<br />
Proposition:</b></p>
<p>â€œIn the future, everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutesâ€</p>
<p> &#8211; Charles Johnson, LGF -</p>
<p>:-D</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I classify Ms. Sheedevil as beneath contempt. She stands there, repudiating everything her son believed in, and claims she&#039;s &quot;grieving&quot;. That&#039;s not grief, it&#039;s not even guilt (guilt would require she honor her son&#039;s beliefs by stating them even as she states her own) -- it&#039;s two-bit narcissism. She&#039;s got the limelight, and she&#039;s gonna use it no matter how poorly it reflects on those associated with her. 

Be interesting to see if one of her kids ever shows up to &quot;support&quot; her. Be a sure sign the loony gene got passed on, anyways.

&gt; what exactly are the lies being told by the â€œleft wing nut casesâ€ that you reference above?

1) &quot;Bush lied, people died&quot;
2) Saddam &amp; Al-queda-terrorists: No links
3) &quot;Downing Street Memo&quot;
4) &quot;Quagmire&quot;

For the first three, just parse through Little Green Footballs for links to refutations of their absurdities.

For the last, go to either the late Steven Vincent&#039;s blog
&lt;a href=&quot;http://spencepublishing.typepad.com/in_the_red_zone/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In the Red Zone&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Yon&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s excellent blog. Either one has a far more sensible, rational, and on-the-spot discussion of the issues in Iraq. Not &quot;everything is hunky dory!&quot; -- just the truth, and you can tell it is because it very much makes sense in terms of the &quot;Big&quot; events you do know about -- like the turnout for the elections despite bomb threats, and the lack of overall anti-American protest marches in Iraq (which would be rampant if they considered us &quot;occupiers&quot;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I classify Ms. Sheedevil as beneath contempt. She stands there, repudiating everything her son believed in, and claims she&#8217;s &#8220;grieving&#8221;. That&#8217;s not grief, it&#8217;s not even guilt (guilt would require she honor her son&#8217;s beliefs by stating them even as she states her own) &#8212; it&#8217;s two-bit narcissism. She&#8217;s got the limelight, and she&#8217;s gonna use it no matter how poorly it reflects on those associated with her. </p>
<p>Be interesting to see if one of her kids ever shows up to &#8220;support&#8221; her. Be a sure sign the loony gene got passed on, anyways.</p>
<p>&gt; what exactly are the lies being told by the â€œleft wing nut casesâ€ that you reference above?</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Bush lied, people died&#8221;<br />
2) Saddam &amp; Al-queda-terrorists: No links<br />
3) &#8220;Downing Street Memo&#8221;<br />
4) &#8220;Quagmire&#8221;</p>
<p>For the first three, just parse through Little Green Footballs for links to refutations of their absurdities.</p>
<p>For the last, go to either the late Steven Vincent&#8217;s blog<br />
<a href="http://spencepublishing.typepad.com/in_the_red_zone/" rel="nofollow">In the Red Zone</a> or <a href="http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Michael Yon</a>&#8216;s excellent blog. Either one has a far more sensible, rational, and on-the-spot discussion of the issues in Iraq. Not &#8220;everything is hunky dory!&#8221; &#8212; just the truth, and you can tell it is because it very much makes sense in terms of the &#8220;Big&#8221; events you do know about &#8212; like the turnout for the elections despite bomb threats, and the lack of overall anti-American protest marches in Iraq (which would be rampant if they considered us &#8220;occupiers&#8221<img src="http://joscafe.com/wp-includes/images/yahoo/yahoo3.gif" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 04:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle,
One lie the mother seems to have grabbed on is that the war is being fought for Israel.  Another, that Bush went to war to make his buddies rich with oil. They seem opposite but I guess they didn&#039;t stop to see it before briefing her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,<br />
One lie the mother seems to have grabbed on is that the war is being fought for Israel.  Another, that Bush went to war to make his buddies rich with oil. They seem opposite but I guess they didn&#8217;t stop to see it before briefing her.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, you need to get out more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, you need to get out more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just curious, because I don&#039;t know, but what exactly are the lies being told by the &quot;left wing nut cases&quot; that you reference above?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just curious, because I don&#8217;t know, but what exactly are the lies being told by the &#8220;left wing nut cases&#8221; that you reference above?</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative &#187; California Activist: Cindy Sheehan</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative &#187; California Activist: Cindy Sheehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2005 03:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] r all the Bush-bashing moonbats racing out to join Sheehan&#8217;s circus, Jo&#8217;s Cafe nails it quite simply: &#8220;Grow the hell up people.&#8221; 	Too much to ask.   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] r all the Bush-bashing moonbats racing out to join Sheehan&#8217;s circus, Jo&#8217;s Cafe nails it quite simply: &#8220;Grow the hell up people.&#8221; 	Too much to ask.   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://joscafe.com/2005/08/12/disturbed-people/comment-page-1#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree -- a military wife and mother from our area here at Fort Benning &lt;del datetime=&quot;2005-08-13T07:38:1804:00&quot;&gt;when&lt;/del&gt; went down to Crawford yesterday, flew down for one day, just to counter protest that bitch.  She&#039;s being SOOOO used by that left wing and when her time is done, she&#039;ll be kicked to the curb like yesterday&#039;s newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8212; a military wife and mother from our area here at Fort Benning <del datetime="2005-08-13T07:38:1804:00">when</del> went down to Crawford yesterday, flew down for one day, just to counter protest that bitch.  She&#8217;s being SOOOO used by that left wing and when her time is done, she&#8217;ll be kicked to the curb like yesterday&#8217;s newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I&#039;ve had it with Miss Cindy Fifteen Minutes and her sycophants.

Who the hell does she think she is, anyway?  What makes HER so much more worthy of the President&#039;s attention than any of the other grieving family members?  She&#039;s special because she hates him?  WTF is that shit all about?  What does she think he would do after meeting with her (AGAIN)?  Pull the troops out of Iraq?  Bring back Casey?  Give her ANOTHER hug?  It&#039;s all a BS stunt.

And you know what?  I read that Casey re-enlisted--IN IRAQ.  Because he was a MAN, not a whiny bitch like his mother.  To hell with her; any sympathy I had for her is gone.  There are plenty of other grieving parents who have my sympathy, but they aren&#039;t scum who leech of their loved ones&#039; dead bodies.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;ve had it with Miss Cindy Fifteen Minutes and her sycophants.</p>
<p>Who the hell does she think she is, anyway?  What makes HER so much more worthy of the President&#8217;s attention than any of the other grieving family members?  She&#8217;s special because she hates him?  WTF is that shit all about?  What does she think he would do after meeting with her (AGAIN)?  Pull the troops out of Iraq?  Bring back Casey?  Give her ANOTHER hug?  It&#8217;s all a BS stunt.</p>
<p>And you know what?  I read that Casey re-enlisted&#8211;IN IRAQ.  Because he was a MAN, not a whiny bitch like his mother.  To hell with her; any sympathy I had for her is gone.  There are plenty of other grieving parents who have my sympathy, but they aren&#8217;t scum who leech of their loved ones&#8217; dead bodies.</p>
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