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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear Kristin, what a dangled liberal web you have been sucked into.  

Read this: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/08/13/obama-lied-about-vote-against-live-birth-abortion-ban-media-mum

When Obama introduced himself to the world, he used his middle name -- it&#039;s his name. 

&quot;Secondly, women should NOT be addressed by their husbandâ€™s name&quot;

That&#039;s your opinion - the majority of the married women in this country go by their husband&#039;s name DUH!  I bet your mom does!

Why should my tax money go to support a child that someone chose to have?  It&#039;s a choice.  I do not belive in a Nanny State dear Kristin, that&#039;s what you liberals believe in. 

And as for you cheap shot at the end about Mrs. Palin - that&#039;s the best you can do to justify your position? ROFL!!!   You liberals are so see through.

Your candidate believes that babies born alive during an attempted abortion should BE KILLED - that my dear liberal is called MURDER.  That&#039;s who you&#039;re voting for - someone that believes in murder.  Say&#039;s a lot about you doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear Kristin, what a dangled liberal web you have been sucked into.  </p>
<p>Read this: <a href="http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/08/13/obama-lied-about-vote-against-live-birth-abortion-ban-media-mum" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/08/13/obama-lied-about-vote-against-live-birth-abortion-ban-media-mum</a></p>
<p>When Obama introduced himself to the world, he used his middle name &#8212; it&#8217;s his name. </p>
<p>&#8220;Secondly, women should NOT be addressed by their husbandâ€™s name&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s your opinion &#8211; the majority of the married women in this country go by their husband&#8217;s name DUH!  I bet your mom does!</p>
<p>Why should my tax money go to support a child that someone chose to have?  It&#8217;s a choice.  I do not belive in a Nanny State dear Kristin, that&#8217;s what you liberals believe in. </p>
<p>And as for you cheap shot at the end about Mrs. Palin &#8211; that&#8217;s the best you can do to justify your position? ROFL!!!   You liberals are so see through.</p>
<p>Your candidate believes that babies born alive during an attempted abortion should BE KILLED &#8211; that my dear liberal is called MURDER.  That&#8217;s who you&#8217;re voting for &#8211; someone that believes in murder.  Say&#8217;s a lot about you doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin Hardgrove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin Hardgrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, first of all, nice inclusion of Barack Obama&#039;s middle name in everything!  Very subtle!  Secondly, women should NOT be addressed by their husband&#039;s name; they are individuals in their own right, and should be respected as such.  There is NO evidence that Michelle or barack Obama have ENDORSED PBAs.  They have merely suggested that it may be crucial to the mother&#039;s life to end the pregnancy.  It is far more cruel to deliver a child before 36 weeks of gestation, only to watch it struggle for life.  A life, by the way which will be plagued with disability if it (on the slim chance) survives.  This is a decision to be left between a woman and her doctor.  
It is funny that the same conservatives who would have all abortions banned also do not support any social programs for families that are underpriviliged.  I find it interesting that conservatives claim to care so much about a fetus, but routinely vote to not offer any monetary support thereafter.
Lastly, if we were teaching our young Americans the value of responsible sexual activity instead of deluding ourselves with &quot;Abstinence Only&quot; education, maybe we would have less abortions to worry about! Just ask your dear friend Sarah Palin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, first of all, nice inclusion of Barack Obama&#8217;s middle name in everything!  Very subtle!  Secondly, women should NOT be addressed by their husband&#8217;s name; they are individuals in their own right, and should be respected as such.  There is NO evidence that Michelle or barack Obama have ENDORSED PBAs.  They have merely suggested that it may be crucial to the mother&#8217;s life to end the pregnancy.  It is far more cruel to deliver a child before 36 weeks of gestation, only to watch it struggle for life.  A life, by the way which will be plagued with disability if it (on the slim chance) survives.  This is a decision to be left between a woman and her doctor.<br />
It is funny that the same conservatives who would have all abortions banned also do not support any social programs for families that are underpriviliged.  I find it interesting that conservatives claim to care so much about a fetus, but routinely vote to not offer any monetary support thereafter.<br />
Lastly, if we were teaching our young Americans the value of responsible sexual activity instead of deluding ourselves with &#8220;Abstinence Only&#8221; education, maybe we would have less abortions to worry about! Just ask your dear friend Sarah Palin!</p>
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		<title>By: TED, MICHELLE &#38; HILLARY: &#8220;FAMILY VALUES&#8221; By: Devvy &#171; THE &#8220;G&#8221; BLOG @WordPress.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>TED, MICHELLE &#38; HILLARY: &#8220;FAMILY VALUES&#8221; By: Devvy &#171; THE &#8220;G&#8221; BLOG @WordPress.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is &#8220;family values,&#8221; Michelle? This is what you and your husband are vocal advocates for and you have the nerve to stand up on world wide television and try to sell a new, warmer version [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is &#8220;family values,&#8221; Michelle? This is what you and your husband are vocal advocates for and you have the nerve to stand up on world wide television and try to sell a new, warmer version [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The mother&#039;s life&quot; is a straw-man when discussing partial-birth abortion.  It is, by definition, a late-term, past the point of viability &quot;procedure.&quot;  So, if the mother&#039;s life is indeed in danger, then there&#039;s is NO reason why the baby can&#039;t be delivered alive.  Yes, the baby might be quite young and need a hospital stay, and might not survive, but if mom is say 26 weeks pregnant and has severe, life threating pre-e, then deliver the baby and do your best to save it.  There&#039;s NO reason that would necessitate out right murder of the baby.  

IMO, the &quot;health of the mother&quot; exception for partial-birth abortion is a cover to kill babies found to have problems later in the pregnancy (even easily corrected problems such as clefts and clubbed feet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The mother&#8217;s life&#8221; is a straw-man when discussing partial-birth abortion.  It is, by definition, a late-term, past the point of viability &#8220;procedure.&#8221;  So, if the mother&#8217;s life is indeed in danger, then there&#8217;s is NO reason why the baby can&#8217;t be delivered alive.  Yes, the baby might be quite young and need a hospital stay, and might not survive, but if mom is say 26 weeks pregnant and has severe, life threating pre-e, then deliver the baby and do your best to save it.  There&#8217;s NO reason that would necessitate out right murder of the baby.  </p>
<p>IMO, the &#8220;health of the mother&#8221; exception for partial-birth abortion is a cover to kill babies found to have problems later in the pregnancy (even easily corrected problems such as clefts and clubbed feet).</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Obama is disgusting for condoning &quot;Partial-Birth Abortion&quot;.  Anyone who votes for her husband must be aware that his thinking probably parallels hers.  
I don&#039;t know about anyone else, but one of the main reasons that I didn&#039;t vote for John Kerry for president a few years back was his &quot;Cafone&quot; of a wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry.  And remember,...........&quot;You can&#039;t make a silk purse out of a sow&#039;s ear.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Obama is disgusting for condoning &#8220;Partial-Birth Abortion&#8221;.  Anyone who votes for her husband must be aware that his thinking probably parallels hers.<br />
I don&#8217;t know about anyone else, but one of the main reasons that I didn&#8217;t vote for John Kerry for president a few years back was his &#8220;Cafone&#8221; of a wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry.  And remember,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;You can&#8217;t make a silk purse out of a sow&#8217;s ear.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo, IMO, there should be no provisions made anywhere.  Abortion in all its forms is murder.  Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo, IMO, there should be no provisions made anywhere.  Abortion in all its forms is murder.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alli, rein in the nastiness ... Christine asked a valid question.  Was there a provision in the bill that put the life of the mother first?  And remember this, the mother is the person who decides what happens - even if the law allows for her life to be spared, that doesn&#039;t mean she would chose that option. 

The Owner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alli, rein in the nastiness &#8230; Christine asked a valid question.  Was there a provision in the bill that put the life of the mother first?  And remember this, the mother is the person who decides what happens &#8211; even if the law allows for her life to be spared, that doesn&#8217;t mean she would chose that option. </p>
<p>The Owner</p>
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		<title>By: Alli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Christine,
Who asked about considering the health or life of the mother:
How could KILLING the child AFTER it&#039;s already been delivered save the life of the mother?!  It makes no sense!  It&#039;s already gestated for many, many weeks (and in some cases PBA&#039;s have been performed on the day the baby was due)and has already been delivered, ALIVE, up until that &quot;doctor&quot; sucks its brains out.  No, the only damage that could be done to the mother at that point is the crippling emotional damage she will suffer after the procedure is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Christine,<br />
Who asked about considering the health or life of the mother:<br />
How could KILLING the child AFTER it&#8217;s already been delivered save the life of the mother?!  It makes no sense!  It&#8217;s already gestated for many, many weeks (and in some cases PBA&#8217;s have been performed on the day the baby was due)and has already been delivered, ALIVE, up until that &#8220;doctor&#8221; sucks its brains out.  No, the only damage that could be done to the mother at that point is the crippling emotional damage she will suffer after the procedure is done.</p>
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		<title>By: ander</title>
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		<dc:creator>ander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abortion is sick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abortion is sick!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jo, for covering this!

And, if you&#039;ll allow me to use a little imagination....I&#039;d like to submit a possibility that I&#039;ve heard no one suggest, thus far.
If what I suggest has some factual basis....it would certainly explain Michelle Obama&#039;s sickening defense of such a horrendous &quot;procedure.&quot;

First -- the facts:
-- The Obama&#039;s have been married about 16 years
-- The Obama&#039;s are both educated, successful professionals, and are fairly wealthy
-- They have two children, both daughters,
ages 9, and 6


-- Michelle Obama is the product of two black parents
-- Barack Obama is the product of one black parent, and one white parent 
-- By her own words, Mrs. Obama does not want the Justice Dept. to have access to the records of partial birth abortions
--Statistically, wealthy, successful, mature, happily married women...are generally not the type to have late term abortions.


Now, for the possibilities:

-- Is it possible that the medical records regarding partial birth abortions, might include the name --  Michelle Obama? 
 -- And, if so, what might have been her reason for a late term abortion(s)?

One more fact:

-- The Punnett Square is a handy scientifically-based tool, used to show the possible genotypes and phenotypes of offspring, from known parentage

-- This is the Square showing genotypes/phenotypes for the offspring of a black mother, and a black/white father (*note: the subjects are rodents, but it&#039;s still pretty compelling material )

BB 	BB
Bb 	Bb

This represents that out of each four offspring, two will be black and two will be black/white.

-- The Obama&#039;s have two black daughters.
So...what are the odds of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jo, for covering this!</p>
<p>And, if you&#8217;ll allow me to use a little imagination&#8230;.I&#8217;d like to submit a possibility that I&#8217;ve heard no one suggest, thus far.<br />
If what I suggest has some factual basis&#8230;.it would certainly explain Michelle Obama&#8217;s sickening defense of such a horrendous &#8220;procedure.&#8221;</p>
<p>First &#8212; the facts:<br />
&#8211; The Obama&#8217;s have been married about 16 years<br />
&#8211; The Obama&#8217;s are both educated, successful professionals, and are fairly wealthy<br />
&#8211; They have two children, both daughters,<br />
ages 9, and 6</p>
<p>&#8211; Michelle Obama is the product of two black parents<br />
&#8211; Barack Obama is the product of one black parent, and one white parent<br />
&#8211; By her own words, Mrs. Obama does not want the Justice Dept. to have access to the records of partial birth abortions<br />
&#8211;Statistically, wealthy, successful, mature, happily married women&#8230;are generally not the type to have late term abortions.</p>
<p>Now, for the possibilities:</p>
<p>&#8211; Is it possible that the medical records regarding partial birth abortions, might include the name &#8212;  Michelle Obama?<br />
 &#8212; And, if so, what might have been her reason for a late term abortion(s)?</p>
<p>One more fact:</p>
<p>&#8211; The Punnett Square is a handy scientifically-based tool, used to show the possible genotypes and phenotypes of offspring, from known parentage</p>
<p>&#8211; This is the Square showing genotypes/phenotypes for the offspring of a black mother, and a black/white father (*note: the subjects are rodents, but it&#8217;s still pretty compelling material )</p>
<p>BB 	BB<br />
Bb 	Bb</p>
<p>This represents that out of each four offspring, two will be black and two will be black/white.</p>
<p>&#8211; The Obama&#8217;s have two black daughters.<br />
So&#8230;what are the odds of that?</p>
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