Well, yes, it certainly does put the country in danger. If any of our enemies have a time machine.

Jo, I don’t know you, and I assume strangers are intelligent and reasonable until proven otherwise. I’ll make another effort to assume you understand the fallacy you’ve just engaged in — it’s kinda obvious, isn’t it?

For instance, I think we can all rest easy that if we mention “Operation Overlord” now, we’re actually not “blowing the cover” of that operation. Because, you know, it’s already blown. At least, that’s my understanding.

It’s that whole “linear time” thing.

And yet Patrick Fitzgerald disagrees. Who do you think is more familiar with the facts of the case? Whose opinion matters more, do you think?

“Get your facts in order, then wallow in your liberal hate.”

Thank you kindly for your loving advice. Can you point to something “hateful” I’ve said here, by the way? Because, as it turns out, I’m an individual, not a cardboard cutout for “liberals.” I’m fairly sure I’ve not insulted anyone here, or leapt to any conclusions about the belief-systems of people I don’t know; my sort of “liberal hate” involves, you know, not actually accusing people I don’t know of things I don’t know, nor actually, um, hating people I disagree with. How silly and childish that would be.

Incidentally, Here is an opinion from that bastion of “liberal hate,” NRO (Andy McCarthy, in this case):

The indictment charges the mere fact that Plame worked at the CIA was classified information. (“At all relevant times … Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA, and her employment status was classified.”)

It is worth noting that many people, including me, have been wrong about this. I assumed that the fact that she was a CIA employee was well-known and not classified, but that some aspect of her relationship with CIA was covert and classified. The latter may be true (Fitzgerald, as he should have, declined to comment on it), but it turns out to be not so important because the very fact that she was a CIA employee was classified. It really doesn’t matter whether we think it should have been classified or not. The fact is that it was. People privileged to handle classified information well know that they mustn’t disclose it even if they personally think there is no good reason for it to be classified or that some higher purpose of theirs would be served by disclosing it.

Jerking knees possibly may not be the best approach to useful discussion. Assuming one is interested in useful discussion.

Victoria Toensing, who wrote the law, said that Plame was not covered by the law because she was not posted overseas within the 5 years before Novak’s article. Also, Wilson was pretty liberal in spreading around that his wife worked for the CIA. Get your facts in order, then wallow in your liberal hate.

HTH.

Harry Reid’s feelings must have really gotten hurt. Could he be any more of a baby? I don’t feel I need an apology Harry. Bush didn’t do anything to me or anyone else, why should he apologize for the actions of others? True, he&#…

I don’t see that you clearly answered either “yes” or “no” to my query, which may be my own fault; should I assume your answer is not “no”? Because “what do you expect” certainly seems to imply to me that your answer is indeed “no,” but with a Justification. A justification you wouldn’t, I expect, allow your hypothetical interlocutor to get away with. But please clarify anything I’m getting wrong.

Thank you, however, for your courteous response.

Re “that the right doesn’t have,” I assume that from your perspective, Focus On The Family, and The Eagle Forum, and Concerned Women of America, for example, are completely incomparable to MoveOn.org (an organization, for what it’s worth, that I don’t believe in five years of blogging I’ve ever even mentioned, let alone praised or recommended, and yet, I’m more or less a Democrat [who votes for Republicans from time to time, and agrees with some Republican notions, but has also grown quite partisan against this Administration after a couple of years of giving them a chance]).

Of course, if you don’t feel there’s any parallel, I must point out that those who are enthusiastic MoveOn types would surely say the same thing: they’re the Good Guys, and not at all comparable to Focus On The Family, etc.

On the substance of this: “Problem is folks, at the time this all happened she wasn’t an undercover agent. She was just an agent. And as for this “classified” crap Fitzgerald muttered yesterday, I would think that most people at the CIA are classified and have a security clearance of some sort.”

People aren’t classified. Documents are classified, not people. People get security clearances. Neither of which is related to whether or not Valerie Plame worked for the Directorate of Operations, which she did, and the fact that she worked undercover, which she did. These are established facts, which are incontrovertible, if perhaps inconvenient to some theses.

Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer. In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. [...] Valerie Wilson’s cover was blown in July 2003. The first sign of that cover being blown was when Mr. Novak published a column on July 14th, 2003.

I take it you feel that the U.S. Attorney is somehow being misleading in these flat statements of fact. Not much one can say to that.

You set an interesting example of the alternative of tolerance for differing opinion. Were the word “lefties” globally substituted with “righties” in this post, would you find yourself praising the writer for their non-hateful, tolerant, moderate, rhetoric?

Serious question.

After two years of hoping to see Karl Rove frog-marched in a perp walk, liberals got the veep’s chief of staff hobbling on crutches.